Jan. 17, 2021, the text message Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene sent to Mark Meadows, former President Donald Trump’s chief of staff, “undermines her credibility as a witness,” one of the lawyers who sought to bar her from running for re-election at Yahoo News on Friday.
John Boniface, an attorney who is part of the team representing five Georgia voters in their efforts to prevent Greene from seeking a second term in Congress using a provision of the Fourteenth Amendment, said the disclosure of the text message in a CNN article conflicts with the testimony that Made by Greene last week.
“He has assured us that it is important to ask these questions and that it undermines her credibility as a witness,” Boniface said.
During her testimony, Greene was asked, “Before the inauguration in 2021, did you advocate martial law with the President of the United States?”
Green, who was under oath, replied, “I don’t remember. I don’t remember.”
Green was also asked if “before the inauguration of Joe Biden” she had advocated imposing martial law in a conversation with the then Chief of Staff of the President of the United States Mr. Trump? “
“I don’t remember,” Green replied.
A text message obtained by CNN showed for the first time that Green raised the issue of martial law with Meadows.
In our private, member-only conversation, many say the only way to save our republic is for Trump to demand the Marshall Act. [sic]. I don’t know about these things. I just wanted to tell him, “Green wrote in the text to Meadows published in a CNN article.” They stole the elections. We all know. Then they will destroy our country. Please tell him to declassify as much as possible so we can go after Biden and everyone else! “
Lawyers seeking to keep Green off the ballot made a motion Friday to address the newly disclosed text message.
“Green’s testimony at the hearing that she had no recollection of discussing martial law with anyone was indeed questionable,” the motion read. “This text with President Trump’s Chief of Staff makes her testimony even more remarkable because it sounds like the kind of message with the kind of recipient that a reasonable person who testifies honestly will remember.”
Boniface told Yahoo News it was naive to think that Greene might have forgotten the text to Meadows.
“I don’t think it’s reasonable to believe that she would have made contact with the Chief of Staff of the President about a very extraordinary matter of imposing martial law to keep the President in power and she would not remember it.”
Green’s attorney, James Bob Jr., told Yahoo News that the wording of the text cited by CNN showed Green was telling the truth in court.
“A lot of them say ‘these are the exact words here,’” Bob Jr. said, adding, ‘I know if they are her words. So many of them say. So, I overheard a conversation, well, and I reported it to Mark Meadows in the text. So she’s not discussing it with them either — those other members [of Congress] And don’t discuss it with Mark. They don’t like to go back and forth or something like that. I have reported that others have said this. And then she makes an actual and very impartial disclaimer about it saying “I don’t know about this stuff.”
Bob Jr continued, “She doesn’t accept that [martial law] or defend it or do anything.”
On Thursday, Green was confronted outside the Capitol by CNN host Jim Acosta, who asked her directly about the text message to Meadows.
While Greene reiterated that she does not remember sending a text to Meadows about martial law, she also corrected Acosta’s representation of its contents.
“I think what’s going on here is that Marjorie Taylor Green is dancing around the truth because she’s been asked a series of questions about it,” Boniface said. “She wasn’t asked simply, ‘Have you talked to Donald Trump or have you reached out to Donald Trump about imposing martial law?’ And I was asked, ‘Did you get in touch with his chief of staff about that?’ She obviously did, based on that text message.”
“I don’t think it can get both ways,” he added. On the one hand she cannot say, ‘I know nothing of this text; I have never seen it, nor do I remember it, “and on the other hand vigorously defend its contents.”
But Bob said Greene has also been consistent in her responses to Acosta, noting that he sent his client the contents of her purported text message on April 26.
“She said she still can’t remember having done it,” Bob said of Greene sending the text to Meadows, but she is able to say what it’s purported to be in it because she’s actually seen it in the past couple of days. “
While the judge in the case will issue a ruling in the coming days, it is ultimately up to Georgia Secretary of State Brad Ravensberger to decide whether to keep Green’s name off the state’s ballot. Given how seldom the Fourteenth Amendment’s provision barring those “who took part in insurrection or rebellion” is used from running for office, the odds seem stacked against the plaintiffs. But Boniface believes their legal team has done its job.
“We are confident of the evidence and we are confident of the law, but I am not able to guess what Secretary Ravensberger will do or what an administrative law judge will do,” he said.